{"id":1287,"date":"2013-07-31T00:59:14","date_gmt":"2013-07-30T23:59:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/schspin.wordpress.com\/?p=1287"},"modified":"2021-10-30T18:07:54","modified_gmt":"2021-10-30T18:07:54","slug":"bestes-alter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/gb\/2013\/07\/31\/bestes-alter\/","title":{"rendered":"The Perfect Age for German TV"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong> The Perfect Age for German TV<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Last month I analysed two groups of German productions for TV and two groups for German cinema, in relation to <a title=\"Kunst oder Kommerz, wo arbeiten die Filmfrauen? Teil 1 Die Gewerke \u2013 \u201cGive me Art, Give me Money\u201d Female Filmmakers Part 1: Behind the Camera\" href=\"http:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/2013\/06\/10\/kunst-kommerz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">female participation behind the camera<\/a><\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">and <a title=\"Kunst oder Kommerz, wo arbeiten die Filmfrauen? Teil 2 Die Besetzung \u2013 \u201eGive me Art, Give me Money\u201c Female Filmmakers Part 2: In Front of the Camera\" href=\"http:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/2013\/06\/29\/kunst-kommerz_2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in front of the camera<\/a><\/span> . <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Even though we have a pretty even amout of women and men in Germany &#8211; <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">41,64 Mio. women<\/span> <\/strong>and <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">40,21 Mio. men<\/span> in December 2011 \u2013 our films are more likely to tell the stories of men, as is supported by male leading and supporting actors outweighing the female actresses in numbers. For the TV films (highest audience and TV award nominations) the ratios were <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">1<\/span><\/strong>:<span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">1,7<\/span> and <span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><strong>1<\/strong><\/span>:<span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">1,8<\/span> respectively.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Now today let\u2019s look of the ages of the actresses and actors that were cast. For this I once again used the data base of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.crew-united.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">crew united<\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">, which distinguishes between leading, supporting and day roles. <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">190 actresses<\/span> <\/strong>and <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">341 actors<\/span> played in the 34 TV productions, that is a distinct imbalance. This is something that we don\u2019t really notice when watching TV? Maybe. Well, that\u2019s just how it is? No! It is not a task of public television to produce male movies with women in the wings. To avoid any misunderstandings: I am not against male-centric stories. \u201cDas Meer am Morgen\u201d (<\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">La mer \u00e0 l&#8217;aube) for example is a very good and touching film, furthermore it\u2019s based on a historic event that hit a group of men. But when I find a distinct minority of female roles for any group of films that I have investigated so far, then something is most definitely going wrong.<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>Figure 1<\/strong> show the cast of 34 films with 10-year-age classes: 17 films from the top audience list 2012 (all crime \/ police investigation stories) and the 17 nominations for the TV film awards in all categories.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/34_tv_alter_en.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1281 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/34_tv_alter_en.jpg\" alt=\"34_TV_Alter_EN\" width=\"611\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/34_tv_alter_en.jpg 800w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/34_tv_alter_en-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/34_tv_alter_en-768x472.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">The best age for the roles or rather the actors that played them is between 40 and 50, 33 % of all roles are found in this group<span style=\"color: #336699;\">.<\/span><\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>80 % of all male parts are between the ages 30 and 60<\/strong><\/span>. <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">For the actresses we find the highest value \u2013 38 \u2013 in the group of the 30 \u2013 40 year olds.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>And the majority (74 %) of actresses were between 20 and 50 years old<\/strong><\/span>. <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">29 %<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">of the actors and<\/span> <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">19 %<\/span> <\/strong><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">of the actresses were 50+. And<\/span> <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">22 %<\/span> <\/strong><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">of the actresses as opposed to 11 % of the actors were younger than 30.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">This imbalance does not really reflect the situation in our society. Here we find nearly as many women as men for all 10 year-groups, and also we don\u2019t see the steep decline with people getting older (also check out<\/span> <a title=\"Von Schauspielerinnen und anderen berufst\u00e4tigen Frauen \u2013 On Actresses and other working women\" href=\"http:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/2013\/02\/27\/berufstatige-frauen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">On Actresses and other working women<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">To summarize these statistics: We definitely see more men than women in German TV productions. And we clearly see younger women than men. Since this has probably been going on for quite some time now the audience does not really notice this (any more), or takes this as standard. Because of our watching (or rather the broadcasting habits.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>Figure 1 <\/strong>summarized criminal investigaton films and other features, but it may a good idea to separate these two groups, because criminal investigation films are a male genre (a majority of violent crimes in Germany are committed by men, there are more male detectives and police officers than females etc.). Therefore once again the two groups of 17 films: the ones with the largest audiences and the TV award nominees. This time analyzed with 5-year-classes for the acting people\u2019s ages. And I look at the complete cast and the leading roles separately.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Figure 2 <\/strong>\u2013 the top 17 for audience numbers show a <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>peak for male roles in the 45 to 50-age group <\/strong><\/span>(<span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">37 actors). 77 % of all actors were between 30 and 55 years old.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>The highest group for the actresses is the 35 to 40-age group <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(17 actresses), two thirds (67 %) were between 25 and 50 years old. 20 actresses (=<\/span> <span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><strong>21 %<\/strong><\/span>) <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">and 51 actors (=<\/span> <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">31 %<\/span>) <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">were over 50, this is a ratio of<\/span> <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">1<\/span><\/strong>: <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">2,5<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(easy maths).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><a href=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_en.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1282 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_en.jpg\" alt=\"TopTV_Alter_EN\" width=\"611\" height=\"371\" srcset=\"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_en.jpg 800w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_en-300x183.jpg 300w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_en-768x468.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px\" \/><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>Figure 3<\/strong> shows the distribution for the film award films. Here we get a slightly different diagram. The values for the actresses are not going as up-and-downy as for the top audience films, instead we find a rise of roles up to the<\/span> <strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">30-35 years group<\/span><\/span> <\/strong>(<span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">23 actresses, that\u2019s 24 %), after that the numbers decline. Tho thirs (66 %) of all actresses were between 25 and 45 years old. For the actors we get a<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>peak in the 35 to 40-years group<\/strong><\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(26 actors), but this number is closely followed by 24 actors in the next two older groups, the 40 to 45 and the 45 to 50 years group. Two thirds of all actors were between 30 and 55 years old.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><strong>16 actresses<\/strong> <\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(= 17 %) and<\/span> <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">47 actors<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(29 %) <strong>over 50 participated<\/strong>, this is a ratio of<\/span> <span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><strong>1<\/strong><\/span>:<span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">3<\/span> (<strong><span style=\"color: #00adef;\">one<\/span> <\/strong>to <span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">three<\/span>)!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><br \/>\n<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter5_en.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1283 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter5_en.jpg\" alt=\"Grimme_Alter5_EN\" width=\"611\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter5_en.jpg 800w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter5_en-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter5_en-768x474.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Okay, these are quite a lot of numbers. To summarize the most important findings again: There are more parts for actors than for actresses, also at a higher age. j For the highest audience (criminal investigation) films the ration there were <strong>2,5 as many <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #ed008c;\">male parts<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>over 50 than<\/strong><\/span> <span style=\"color: #00adef;\"><strong>female parts<\/strong><\/span>, <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">for the film award nominations even 3 times as many. <strong>Female characters in the film award nominations are younger still than in the top audience productions<\/strong>. This conclusion we gain from comparing the two-thirds-values. For the top audience films, 67 % were between 25 and 50, for the film award nominations 66 % were between 25 and 45 years old. That\u2019s another 5 years off. The two-thirds-values for the men were pretty even for the two groups of films.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"> Now finally a quick glance at the age distribution of leading characters (<strong>Figure 4<\/strong> and <strong>Figure 5<\/strong>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_hr_en.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1284\" src=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_hr_en.jpg\" alt=\"TopTV_Alter_HR_EN\" width=\"385\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_hr_en.jpg 800w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_hr_en-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/toptv_alter_hr_en-768x472.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 385px) 100vw, 385px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter_hr_en.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1285\" src=\"http:\/\/schspin.files.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter_hr_en.jpg\" alt=\"Grimme_Alter_HR_EN\" width=\"385\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter_hr_en.jpg 800w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter_hr_en-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/schspin.stieve.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/grimme_alter_hr_en-768x472.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 385px) 100vw, 385px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Top audience:<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>female leads peak in the 45 to 50 age group<\/strong> <\/span>(7 actresses) , which is definitely older than the all-roles-peak (35 to 40). In the film award nominations group there are <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>two small peaks <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">with 5 actresses each: the<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>30 to 35 year olds <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">and the<\/span> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\"><strong>40 to 45 year olds<\/strong> <\/span><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(peak of all roles: 30 to 35).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">For the men we find a very <strong>distinct<\/strong><\/span><strong> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">peak for the leads in the group of 35 to 40 years <\/span><\/strong>(<span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">film award films, 9 actors) and<\/span> <strong><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">in the group of 50 to 55 years<\/span><\/strong> <span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">(top audience, 10 actors). Are TV inspectors and murderers getting old?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">By the way: a very bad value we get from comparing female and male leading characters for the film awards films : nearly 3 times as many men leading! And these are not the crime investigation stories. What might be the reason?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">Of course these are only snap shots from 2012. And 34 of (how many in all?) new productions are only a small share. But these are films with a big audience, and in the case of the criminal investigation films (\u201cTatort\u201d) we can assume that they will run and re-run on German TV for the next 20 odd years on all channels of German public broadcasting. The film awards films are also repeated (though less often) and of course this is good, because there are a number of good films in this groups.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #4d4d4d;\">A television programme that pushes women and especially older women to the sides and does not tell their stories should become a thing of the past. Not only for public broadcasting of course, but also for the private channels. These need to be checked as well. But that is a matter for a future investigaton.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Im besten Alters f\u00fcr&#8217;s deutsche Fernsehen Letzten Monat hab ich je zwei Gruppen von deutschen Film- und Fernsehfilmen 2012 in Hinblick auf die Mitwirkung von Frauen hinter der Kamera und Frauen vor der Kamera analysiert. 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